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Post by kermit katak lucu Mon 22 Aug 2011, 5:11 am

apakah quran mengizinkan menikah dengan wanita yang belum menstruasi??? jawabannya adalah YES!! .buktinya quran mengatur masa iddah( masa menunggu seorang istri yang dicerai suaminya untuk dapat menikah lagi)., bagi perempuan yang belum menstruasi berdasarkan tafsir klasik on line yang saya temukan:

mantap sekale nehh tafsir klasik,isinya pasti bikin malu muslim( itu juga kalo muslim masih punya rasa malu):


langsung aja ke ayat yang dimaksud:


Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
Indonesian
Dan perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid lagi (monopause) di antara perempuan-perempuanmu jika kamu ragu-ragu (tentang masa iddahnya), maka masa iddah mereka adalah tiga bulan; dan begitu (pula) perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid. Dan perempuan-perempuan yang hamil, waktu iddah mereka itu ialah sampai mereka melahirkan kandungannya. Dan barang -siapa yang bertakwa kepada Allah, niscaya Allah menjadikan baginya kemudahan dalam urusannya.



http://quran.com/65/4

Tafsir al-Jalalayn,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.

Tafsir al-Jalalayn, trans. Feras Hamza
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http://www.altafsir.com/Al-Jalalayn.asp


Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.

Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas, trans. Mokrane Guezzou
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* تفسير Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.


http://www.altafsir.com/WahidiAsbabAlnuzul.asp


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Post by mistik6666 Mon 22 Aug 2011, 5:34 am


perasaan udah seringkali dibahas soal adat-istiadat / kebiasaan nikah jaman dulu...

tapi ndak apalah, silahkan dilanjut..


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Post by Mencarikebenaran Mon 22 Aug 2011, 5:52 am

mistik6666 wrote:
perasaan udah seringkali dibahas soal adat-istiadat / kebiasaan nikah jaman dulu...

tapi ndak apalah, silahkan dilanjut..


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Post by abu hanan Mon 22 Aug 2011, 10:54 am

kermit katak lucu wrote:apakah quran mengizinkan menikah dengan wanita yang belum menstruasi??? jawabannya adalah YES!! .buktinya quran mengatur masa iddah( masa menunggu seorang istri yang dicerai suaminya untuk dapat menikah lagi)., bagi perempuan yang belum menstruasi berdasarkan tafsir klasik on line yang saya temukan:

mantap sekale nehh tafsir klasik,isinya pasti bikin malu muslim( itu juga kalo muslim masih punya rasa malu):

langsung aja ke ayat yang dimaksud:

Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
Indonesian
Dan perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid lagi (monopause) di antara perempuan-perempuanmu jika kamu ragu-ragu (tentang masa iddahnya), maka masa iddah mereka adalah tiga bulan; dan begitu (pula) perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid. Dan perempuan-perempuan yang hamil, waktu iddah mereka itu ialah sampai mereka melahirkan kandungannya. Dan barang -siapa yang bertakwa kepada Allah, niscaya Allah menjadikan baginya kemudahan dalam urusannya.

http://quran.com/65/4

Tafsir al-Jalalayn,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.

Tafsir al-Jalalayn, trans. Feras Hamza
© 2011 Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought, Amman, Jordan (http://www.aalalbayt.org) ® All Rights Reserved
Apart from any fair dealing for the purposes of research or private study, or criticism or review, this work may not be reproduced, stored or transmitted, in any form or by any means, without the prior permission in writing of the Great Tafsirs Project, Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought (aalal-bayt@rhc.jo)


http://www.altafsir.com/Al-Jalalayn.asp

Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.

Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas, trans. Mokrane Guezzou
© 2011 Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought, Amman, Jordan (http://www.aalalbayt.org) ® All Rights Reserved
Apart from any fair dealing for the purposes of research or private study, or criticism or review, this work may not be reproduced, stored or transmitted, in any form or by any means, without the prior permission in writing of the Great Tafsirs Project, Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought (aalal-bayt@rhc.jo)

* تفسير Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.

http://www.altafsir.com/WahidiAsbabAlnuzul.asp

saya punya banyak bahan nehh sekarang thanks to tafsir on line yang sangat komplit dalam bahasa inggris pula.

Apabilah ayat tersebut,andah tafsirkan sebagah ijin utk menikahih gadis di bawah umur...
up yours ajah deh.....
karenah darih segih kesehatan membuktikan bahwa ayat tersebut medahului sains.
perempuan kebanyakan mengalamih menstruasih padah usiah antarah duah belas dan tigah belas tahun,tetapih selaluh terdapat perempuan yang mengalaminya pada usia lebih awal, kira-kira sembilan-sebelas tahun, dan bahkan mungkin lebih dinih. Di lain pihak beberapah perempuan mungkin belum mengalamih menstruasih sampaih usia 15 tahun atau 16 tahun atau 18 tahun. Ini semua bergantung pada produksi dan pelepasan hormon.

Menstruasih dapat tertundah karenah beberapah sebab: aktivitas fisik yang berat, berat badan kurang, gangguan medis, atau karenah faktor keturunan. Apakah mungkin tidak pernah mengalami haid? Perempuan yang tidak pernah mengalamih periodeh menstruasih hampir selaluh lahir dengan gangguan genetik, abnormal,atau gangguan yang diperoleh sebagaih hasil darih masalah keluargah atauh kerusakan dalam gen merekah.

sekalih lagih...terserah anda jika menafsirkan ayat tersebut sebagai ijin ber-pedofil.
Karenah memang TIDAK ADA seorang muslim pun yang menggunakan ayat tersebut sebagai dasar pembenaran perilakuh pedofilia kecualih orang-orang sepertih andah.
Itupun jikah andah ngotot....
lihd : wrote:Lanjutan seri ke-9:
https://murtadinkafirun.forumotion.com/t11510-fakta-tentang-kekejian-tuhan-kristen-beserta-ajarannya-part-9-punya-tradisi-untuk-memperbudak-bangsa-lain#84563

7 Apabila ada seorang menjual anaknya yang perempuan sebagai budak, maka perempuan itu tidak boleh keluar seperti cara budak-budak lelaki keluar.

9 Jika tuannya itu menyediakannya bagi anaknya laki-laki, maka haruslah tuannya itu memperlakukannya seperti anak-anak perempuan berhak diperlakukan.

10 Jika tuannya itu mengambil perempuan lain, ia tidak boleh mengurangi makanan perempuan itu, pakaiannya dan persetubuhan dengan dia.

(Keluaran 21:7,9,10)
Anda mau meyanggah?? Silahkan.... Smile
bisakah anda terangkan pada kami,pada usia berapa anak perempuan boleh dijual dan dicampuri?
Atauh andah akan bilang Taurat TELAH DIGENAPIH?
Atauh andah akan meneruskan hobih,buka lapak dan kabur?
silahkan.......
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Post by kermit katak lucu Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:16 pm

copas:


sekalih lagih...terserah anda jika menafsirkan ayat tersebut sebagai ijin ber-pedofil.
Karenah memang TIDAK ADA seorang muslim pun yang menggunakan ayat tersebut sebagai dasar pembenaran perilakuh pedofilia kecualih orang-orang sepertih andah.
Itupun jikah andah ngotot....


lahh...ini ada orang arab gila,majikan loe yang pake ayat quran di atas:



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Top Saudi Cleric Issues Fatwa Defending Pedophilia As Marriage, Says Girls Can Be Married While “They Are In The Cradle”


(Raymond Ibrahim) — Muslim “child-marriage” — euphemism for pedophilia — is making headlines again, at least in Arabic media: Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council, just issued a fatwa asserting that there is no minimum age for marriage, and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.”

Appearing in Saudi papers on July 13, the fatwa complains that “Uninformed interference with Sharia rulings by the press and journalists is on the increase, posing dire consequences to society, including their interference with the question of marriage to small girls who have not reached maturity, and their demand that a minimum age be set for girls to marry.”

Fawzan insists that nowhere does Sharia set an age limit for marrying girls: like countless Muslim scholars before him, he relies on Koran 65:4, which discusses marriage to females who have not yet begun menstruating (i.e., are prepubescent) and the fact that Muhammad, Islam’s role model, married Aisha when she was 6-years-old, “consummating” the marriage — or, in modern parlance, raping her — when she was 9. . . .

Fawzan concludes his fatwa with a warning: “It behooves those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing marriage.”...................






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أكد الشيخ الدكتور صالح بن فوزان الفوزان -عضو هيئة كبار العلماء، عضو اللجنة الدائمة للإفتاء بالسعودية- أن تزويج الفتاة الصغيرة التي لم تصل إلى مرحلة البلوغ من كفء؛ سائغ بإجماع الفقهاء.

وقال الفوزان في فتوى نشرتها الصحف السعودية الأربعاء 13 يوليو/تموز 2011: "كثرت في هذا الوقت تدخلات الصحافة والصحفيين في الأحكام الشرعية من غير علم، وهذا عمل يُخاف من عواقبه على المجتمع، ومن ذلك تدخلهم في مسألة تزويج الصغيرة التي دون البلوغ من كفء يصلح لها، ومطالبتهم بتحديد سن لتزويج الفتاة".

ووصف ذلك بأنه "تدخل في حكم شرعي، مرجعه أهل العلم، وعلى ضوء الكتاب والسنة".

وبين الفوزان أنه ليس في الشريعة ما يُحدد السن الذي تُزوج فيه الفتاة؛ بل في الشريعة ما يدل على خلاف ذلك، مستدلا بقوله تعالى في عدة المطلقة: "واللائي يئسن من المحيض من نسائكم فعدتهن ثلاثة أشهر واللائي لم يحضن"؛ أي الصغيرات اللاتي لم يبلغن سن الحيض فعدتهن ثلاثة أشهر، مثل اليائسات من الحيض، فهذا دليل من القرآن على أن الصغيرة تُزوج وتطلق وتلزمها العدة.

وأضاف "دلت السنة على ذلك، فقد تزوج النبي -صلى الله عليه وسلم- عائشة رضي الله عنها وهي بنت ست سنين. ودخل بها وهي بنت تسع سنين، فهذا دليل من السنة على هذه المسألة، وقد أجمع العلماء على جواز ذلك".

وأشار إلى أن الإمام البخاري قال في صحيحه: باب إنكاح الرجل ولده الصغار. لقوله تعالى: "واللائي لم يحضن"، فجعل عدتها ثلاثة أشهر قبل البلوغ. حدثنا محمد بن يوسف حدثنا سفيان عن هشام عن أبيه عن عائشة رضي الله عنها: أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم تزوجها وهي بنت ست سنين، وأدخلت عليه وهي بنت تسع، ومكثت عنده تسعا. قال الحافظ ابن حجر رحمه الله في الفتح: قوله: لقول الله تعالى: "واللائي لم يحضن"، فجعل عدتها ثلاثة أشهر قبل البلوغ، أي فدل على أن نكاحها قبل البلوغ جائز، وهو استنباط حسن، لكن ليس في الآية تخصيص ذلك بالوالد ولا بالبكر".

ونقل عضو هيئة كبار العلماء قول ابن بطال في شرحه لصحيح البخاري في صفحة 172 - 173 على باب تزويج الصغار من الكبار: أجمع العلماء على أنه يجوز للآباء تزويج الصغار من بناتهم وإن كن في المهد؛ إلا أنه لا يجوز لأزواجهن البناء بهن إلا إذا صلحن للوطء، واحتملن الرجال، وأحوالهن تختلف في ذلك على قدر خلقهن وطاقتهن. وكانت عائشة رضي الله عنها حين تزوج بها النبي بنت ست سنين وبنى بها بنت تسع.

ونقل الفوزان قول مفتي السعودية الراحل الشيخ عبد العزيز بن باز في مجموع فتاواه ومقالاته الجزء الرابع صفحة 126 لما بلغه أن بعض الدول الإسلامية تريد تحديد سن الزواج بأن لا يقل عمر الفتى عن ثمانية عشر عاما وعمر الفتاة عن ستة عشر عاما. قال: فلما كان ذلك يخالف ما شرعه الله جل وعلا أحببت التنبيه لبيان الحق. فالسن في الزواج لم يُقيد بحد معين لا في البكر ولا في الصغير. والكتاب والسنة يدلان على ذلك. لأن فيهما الحث على الزواج والترغيب فيه من دون تقييد بسن معينة.

وخلص إلى القول: إنه "يجب على هؤلاء الذين ينادون بتحديد سن الزواج أن يتقوا الله ولا يخالفوا شرعه، أو يشرعوا شيئا لم يأذن به الله، فالحكم لله عز وجل، والتشريع حق له سبحانه لا يشاركه فيه غيره. ومن ذلك أحكام الزواج".




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Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas in Saudi Arabia - to marry the little girl that did not reach adulthood than efficient; acceptable according to the consensus of scholars. said Fawzaan in the advisory opinion of the newspaper reports, Saudi Arabia on Wednesday July 13 2011: "There have been many at this time interventions of the press and journalists in the legal provisions of non-science, and this work is afraid of its consequences on society, and that their intervention in the matter of marriage of the small without the puberty of efficient good for her, and asking them to determine the age to marry the girl." and described this as "interference in an Islamic ruling, be attributed to the scholars, and in light of Quran and Sunnah. " and Fawzaan that nothing in the law that determines the age at which he married the girl; but in the law indicates otherwise, citing the Almighty, saying in a number of the absolute, "and who Aisn of menstruation of your wives Fdthen three months and who did not menstruate "; any young women who have not reached the age of menstruation Fdthen three months, such as the desperate part of the period, this evidence from the Quran that the small-married and divorced, and it requires preparing. "The Sunnah indicates, it has married the Prophet - peace be upon him - Aisha, may Allah be a girl for six years. and entered by a girl nine years, this is a sign of the year on this issue, the scholars are agreed that it is permissible. " He pointed out that Imam Bukhari said in his Saheeh: the door of marriage arranged by the man and his son young. Says: "and who did not menstruate," Making the promised three months before puberty. Told of Mohammed Ben Youssef Sofiane Tell us about Hisham from his father from Aisha may Allah be pleased that the Prophet peace be upon him married a girl six years, and made ​​him a girl nine, and stayed him for nine years. Said Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar Allah's mercy in the opening said: With the words of Almighty God "and who did not menstruate," Making the promised three months before puberty, which indicates that the marriage before puberty is permissible, is to develop good, but not in the verse to designate that parent does not Bakr ". and the transfer of a member of the senior scholars Ibn Battal in his commentary of Sahih Al-Bukhari in page 172-173 on the door of married young adults: scholars are unanimously agreed that parents may marry off young daughters though they are in the cradle; it may not be to their husbands build them only if Salehn of intercourse, and Ahtmln men, and their situations differ in that the amount created them and energy. It was Aisha, may Allah be pleased when he married the Prophet girl six years and built the girl nine. and the transfer of Fawzaan said the Mufti of Saudi Arabia late Sheikh Abdul Aziz Bin Baz, in the sum of his fatwas and articles Part IV Page 126 to heard that some Muslim countries want to limit the age of marriage that is not younger than the boy of eighteen years and the age of the girl for six years. he said: When it was contrary to what Allah Almighty I loved the alert to show the he truth. The age at marriage is not restricted to a certain not a virgin, nor in the applet. and the Qur'aan and Sunnah indicate that. because the two induction to the marriage, which is encouraged without restriction to enact certain. He concluded by saying: "It must be on those who advocate that the age of marriage, that fear God does not violate the laws, or initiate something not authorized by God, God's governance, legislation and the right to Him not shared by others. Including the provisions of the marriage. "


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Post by musicman Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:37 pm

kermit katak lucu wrote:apakah quran mengizinkan menikah dengan wanita yang belum menstruasi??? jawabannya adalah YES!! .buktinya quran mengatur masa iddah( masa menunggu seorang istri yang dicerai suaminya untuk dapat menikah lagi)., bagi perempuan yang belum menstruasi berdasarkan tafsir klasik on line yang saya temukan:

mantap sekale nehh tafsir klasik,isinya pasti bikin malu muslim( itu juga kalo muslim masih punya rasa malu):


langsung aja ke ayat yang dimaksud:


Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
Indonesian
Dan perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid lagi (monopause) di antara perempuan-perempuanmu jika kamu ragu-ragu (tentang masa iddahnya), maka masa iddah mereka adalah tiga bulan; dan begitu (pula) perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid. Dan perempuan-perempuan yang hamil, waktu iddah mereka itu ialah sampai mereka melahirkan kandungannya. Dan barang -siapa yang bertakwa kepada Allah, niscaya Allah menjadikan baginya kemudahan dalam urusannya.



http://quran.com/65/4

Tafsir al-Jalalayn,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.

Tafsir al-Jalalayn, trans. Feras Hamza
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Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.

Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas, trans. Mokrane Guezzou
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* تفسير Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.


http://www.altafsir.com/WahidiAsbabAlnuzul.asp


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saya punya banyak bahan nehh sekarang thanks to tafsir on line yang sangat komplit dalam bahasa inggris pula.

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yah ngga gitu....

coba baca dr awal surat at thaalaq 1 donk..

itu aturan untuk bercerai (thalaq)

ayat itu ditujukan aturan untuk mengatur thalaq pada jaman dahulu dimana menikah muda adalah biasa


hadeh....Tukang Copas FFI maen copas lagih..
keliling2 dulu Mit...nih basi ah...

kreatif makanya...biar gk basi modal copas FFI
dah saya ulas tuh....tentang pernikahan muda jaman dahulu..

https://murtadinkafirun.forumotion.com/t10456-musicmanbuku-kristen-sendiri-membela-tuduhan-phedofil-kepada-nabi-muhammad

Dalam buku yg berjudul
Buku Palungan menyingkap kisah kelahiran oleh Joseph F. Kelly hal.105

menjelaskan (pembelaan?) untuk pernikahan-pernikahan di usia muda bagi wanita-wanita sebelum abad 19....

mari kita simak :


phedofilia dalam quran Sampul1bukupalunganmeny

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Post by abu hanan Mon 22 Aug 2011, 4:47 pm

kermit katak lucu wrote:copas:
sekalih lagih...terserah anda jika menafsirkan ayat tersebut sebagai ijin ber-pedofil.
Karenah memang TIDAK ADA seorang muslim pun yang menggunakan ayat tersebut sebagai dasar pembenaran perilakuh pedofilia kecualih orang-orang sepertih andah.
Itupun jikah andah ngotot....
lahh...ini ada orang arab gila,majikan loe yang pake ayat quran di atas:

SCOUR ZIP’S BOWELS

Top Saudi Cleric Issues Fatwa Defending Pedophilia As Marriage, Says Girls Can Be Married While “They Are In The Cradle”


(Raymond Ibrahim) — Muslim “child-marriage” — euphemism for pedophilia — is making headlines again, at least in Arabic media: Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council, just issued a fatwa asserting that there is no minimum age for marriage, and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.”

Appearing in Saudi papers on July 13, the fatwa complains that “Uninformed interference with Sharia rulings by the press and journalists is on the increase, posing dire consequences to society, including their interference with the question of marriage to small girls who have not reached maturity, and their demand that a minimum age be set for girls to marry.”

Fawzan insists that nowhere does Sharia set an age limit for marrying girls: like countless Muslim scholars before him, he relies on Koran 65:4, which discusses marriage to females who have not yet begun menstruating (i.e., are prepubescent) and the fact that Muhammad, Islam’s role model, married Aisha when she was 6-years-old, “consummating” the marriage — or, in modern parlance, raping her — when she was 9. . . .

Fawzan concludes his fatwa with a warning: “It behooves those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing marriage.”...................

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أكد الشيخ الدكتور صالح بن فوزان الفوزان -عضو هيئة كبار العلماء، عضو اللجنة الدائمة للإفتاء بالسعودية- أن تزويج الفتاة الصغيرة التي لم تصل إلى مرحلة البلوغ من كفء؛ سائغ بإجماع الفقهاء.

وقال الفوزان في فتوى نشرتها الصحف السعودية الأربعاء 13 يوليو/تموز 2011: "كثرت في هذا الوقت تدخلات الصحافة والصحفيين في الأحكام الشرعية من غير علم، وهذا عمل يُخاف من عواقبه على المجتمع، ومن ذلك تدخلهم في مسألة تزويج الصغيرة التي دون البلوغ من كفء يصلح لها، ومطالبتهم بتحديد سن لتزويج الفتاة".

ووصف ذلك بأنه "تدخل في حكم شرعي، مرجعه أهل العلم، وعلى ضوء الكتاب والسنة".

وبين الفوزان أنه ليس في الشريعة ما يُحدد السن الذي تُزوج فيه الفتاة؛ بل في الشريعة ما يدل على خلاف ذلك، مستدلا بقوله تعالى في عدة المطلقة: "واللائي يئسن من المحيض من نسائكم فعدتهن ثلاثة أشهر واللائي لم يحضن"؛ أي الصغيرات اللاتي لم يبلغن سن الحيض فعدتهن ثلاثة أشهر، مثل اليائسات من الحيض، فهذا دليل من القرآن على أن الصغيرة تُزوج وتطلق وتلزمها العدة.

وأضاف "دلت السنة على ذلك، فقد تزوج النبي -صلى الله عليه وسلم- عائشة رضي الله عنها وهي بنت ست سنين. ودخل بها وهي بنت تسع سنين، فهذا دليل من السنة على هذه المسألة، وقد أجمع العلماء على جواز ذلك".

وأشار إلى أن الإمام البخاري قال في صحيحه: باب إنكاح الرجل ولده الصغار. لقوله تعالى: "واللائي لم يحضن"، فجعل عدتها ثلاثة أشهر قبل البلوغ. حدثنا محمد بن يوسف حدثنا سفيان عن هشام عن أبيه عن عائشة رضي الله عنها: أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم تزوجها وهي بنت ست سنين، وأدخلت عليه وهي بنت تسع، ومكثت عنده تسعا. قال الحافظ ابن حجر رحمه الله في الفتح: قوله: لقول الله تعالى: "واللائي لم يحضن"، فجعل عدتها ثلاثة أشهر قبل البلوغ، أي فدل على أن نكاحها قبل البلوغ جائز، وهو استنباط حسن، لكن ليس في الآية تخصيص ذلك بالوالد ولا بالبكر".

ونقل عضو هيئة كبار العلماء قول ابن بطال في شرحه لصحيح البخاري في صفحة 172 - 173 على باب تزويج الصغار من الكبار: أجمع العلماء على أنه يجوز للآباء تزويج الصغار من بناتهم وإن كن في المهد؛ إلا أنه لا يجوز لأزواجهن البناء بهن إلا إذا صلحن للوطء، واحتملن الرجال، وأحوالهن تختلف في ذلك على قدر خلقهن وطاقتهن. وكانت عائشة رضي الله عنها حين تزوج بها النبي بنت ست سنين وبنى بها بنت تسع.

ونقل الفوزان قول مفتي السعودية الراحل الشيخ عبد العزيز بن باز في مجموع فتاواه ومقالاته الجزء الرابع صفحة 126 لما بلغه أن بعض الدول الإسلامية تريد تحديد سن الزواج بأن لا يقل عمر الفتى عن ثمانية عشر عاما وعمر الفتاة عن ستة عشر عاما. قال: فلما كان ذلك يخالف ما شرعه الله جل وعلا أحببت التنبيه لبيان الحق. فالسن في الزواج لم يُقيد بحد معين لا في البكر ولا في الصغير. والكتاب والسنة يدلان على ذلك. لأن فيهما الحث على الزواج والترغيب فيه من دون تقييد بسن معينة.

وخلص إلى القول: إنه "يجب على هؤلاء الذين ينادون بتحديد سن الزواج أن يتقوا الله ولا يخالفوا شرعه، أو يشرعوا شيئا لم يأذن به الله، فالحكم لله عز وجل، والتشريع حق له سبحانه لا يشاركه فيه غيره. ومن ذلك أحكام الزواج".

google translate:

Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas in Saudi Arabia - to marry the little girl that did not reach adulthood than efficient; acceptable according to the consensus of scholars. said Fawzaan in the advisory opinion of the newspaper reports, Saudi Arabia on Wednesday July 13 2011: "There have been many at this time interventions of the press and journalists in the legal provisions of non-science, and this work is afraid of its consequences on society, and that their intervention in the matter of marriage of the small without the puberty of efficient good for her, and asking them to determine the age to marry the girl." and described this as "interference in an Islamic ruling, be attributed to the scholars, and in light of Quran and Sunnah. " and Fawzaan that nothing in the law that determines the age at which he married the girl; but in the law indicates otherwise, citing the Almighty, saying in a number of the absolute, "and who Aisn of menstruation of your wives Fdthen three months and who did not menstruate "; any young women who have not reached the age of menstruation Fdthen three months, such as the desperate part of the period, this evidence from the Quran that the small-married and divorced, and it requires preparing. "The Sunnah indicates, it has married the Prophet - peace be upon him - Aisha, may Allah be a girl for six years. and entered by a girl nine years, this is a sign of the year on this issue, the scholars are agreed that it is permissible. " He pointed out that Imam Bukhari said in his Saheeh: the door of marriage arranged by the man and his son young. Says: "and who did not menstruate," Making the promised three months before puberty. Told of Mohammed Ben Youssef Sofiane Tell us about Hisham from his father from Aisha may Allah be pleased that the Prophet peace be upon him married a girl six years, and made ​​him a girl nine, and stayed him for nine years. Said Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar Allah's mercy in the opening said: With the words of Almighty God "and who did not menstruate," Making the promised three months before puberty, which indicates that the marriage before puberty is permissible, is to develop good, but not in the verse to designate that parent does not Bakr ". and the transfer of a member of the senior scholars Ibn Battal in his commentary of Sahih Al-Bukhari in page 172-173 on the door of married young adults: scholars are unanimously agreed that parents may marry off young daughters though they are in the cradle; it may not be to their husbands build them only if Salehn of intercourse, and Ahtmln men, and their situations differ in that the amount created them and energy. It was Aisha, may Allah be pleased when he married the Prophet girl six years and built the girl nine. and the transfer of Fawzaan said the Mufti of Saudi Arabia late Sheikh Abdul Aziz Bin Baz, in the sum of his fatwas and articles Part IV Page 126 to heard that some Muslim countries want to limit the age of marriage that is not younger than the boy of eighteen years and the age of the girl for six years. he said: When it was contrary to what Allah Almighty I loved the alert to show the he truth. The age at marriage is not restricted to a certain not a virgin, nor in the applet. and the Qur'aan and Sunnah indicate that. because the two induction to the marriage, which is encouraged without restriction to enact certain. He concluded by saying: "It must be on those who advocate that the age of marriage, that fear God does not violate the laws, or initiate something not authorized by God, God's governance, legislation and the right to Him not shared by others. Including the provisions of the marriage. "
dari awal sayah udah mendugah kaloh ujung2nyah tetap pada pedofilia.Dijawab ato tidak,dijelasken ato tidak....
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kermit katak lucu wrote:apakah quran mengizinkan menikah dengan wanita yang belum menstruasi??? jawabannya adalah YES!! .buktinya quran mengatur masa iddah( masa menunggu seorang istri yang dicerai suaminya untuk dapat menikah lagi)., bagi perempuan yang belum menstruasi berdasarkan tafsir klasik on line yang saya temukan:

mantap sekale nehh tafsir klasik,isinya pasti bikin malu muslim( itu juga kalo muslim masih punya rasa malu):


langsung aja ke ayat yang dimaksud:


Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
Indonesian
Dan perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid lagi (monopause) di antara perempuan-perempuanmu jika kamu ragu-ragu (tentang masa iddahnya), maka masa iddah mereka adalah tiga bulan; dan begitu (pula) perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid. Dan perempuan-perempuan yang hamil, waktu iddah mereka itu ialah sampai mereka melahirkan kandungannya. Dan barang -siapa yang bertakwa kepada Allah, niscaya Allah menjadikan baginya kemudahan dalam urusannya.



http://quran.com/65/4

Tafsir al-Jalalayn,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.

Tafsir al-Jalalayn, trans. Feras Hamza
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Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.

Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas, trans. Mokrane Guezzou
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* تفسير Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.


http://www.altafsir.com/WahidiAsbabAlnuzul.asp


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yah ngga gitu....

coba baca dr awal surat at thaalaq 1 donk..

itu aturan untuk bercerai (thalaq)

ayat itu ditujukan aturan untuk mengatur thalaq pada jaman dahulu dimana menikah muda adalah biasa


hadeh....Tukang Copas FFI maen copas lagih..
keliling2 dulu Mit...nih basi ah...

kreatif makanya...biar gk basi modal copas FFI
dah saya ulas tuh....tentang pernikahan muda jaman dahulu..

https://murtadinkafirun.forumotion.com/t10456-musicmanbuku-kristen-sendiri-membela-tuduhan-phedofil-kepada-nabi-muhammad

Dalam buku yg berjudul
Buku Palungan menyingkap kisah kelahiran oleh Joseph F. Kelly hal.105

menjelaskan (pembelaan?) untuk pernikahan-pernikahan di usia muda bagi wanita-wanita sebelum abad 19....

mari kita simak :


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memang agama apa yang punya konsep masa iddah yachhh??????????????????????????


sekarang saya tanya tentang masa iddah wanita monopaose dalam islam,berapa lama????


berapa lama masa iddah wanita hamil dalam islam??????


samakah dengan aturan ayat di atas??????


kalo ternyata gak sama, barulah kau bisa berkata,bahwa ayat tersebut ditujukkan untuk " jaman dulu"
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kermit katak lucu wrote:
musicman wrote:
kermit katak lucu wrote:apakah quran mengizinkan menikah dengan wanita yang belum menstruasi??? jawabannya adalah YES!! .buktinya quran mengatur masa iddah( masa menunggu seorang istri yang dicerai suaminya untuk dapat menikah lagi)., bagi perempuan yang belum menstruasi berdasarkan tafsir klasik on line yang saya temukan:

mantap sekale nehh tafsir klasik,isinya pasti bikin malu muslim( itu juga kalo muslim masih punya rasa malu):


langsung aja ke ayat yang dimaksud:


Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
Indonesian
Dan perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid lagi (monopause) di antara perempuan-perempuanmu jika kamu ragu-ragu (tentang masa iddahnya), maka masa iddah mereka adalah tiga bulan; dan begitu (pula) perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid. Dan perempuan-perempuan yang hamil, waktu iddah mereka itu ialah sampai mereka melahirkan kandungannya. Dan barang -siapa yang bertakwa kepada Allah, niscaya Allah menjadikan baginya kemudahan dalam urusannya.



http://quran.com/65/4

Tafsir al-Jalalayn,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.

Tafsir al-Jalalayn, trans. Feras Hamza
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http://www.altafsir.com/Al-Jalalayn.asp


Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.

Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas, trans. Mokrane Guezzou
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* تفسير Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.


http://www.altafsir.com/WahidiAsbabAlnuzul.asp


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saya punya banyak bahan nehh sekarang thanks to tafsir on line yang sangat komplit dalam bahasa inggris pula.

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yah ngga gitu....

coba baca dr awal surat at thaalaq 1 donk..

itu aturan untuk bercerai (thalaq)

ayat itu ditujukan aturan untuk mengatur thalaq pada jaman dahulu dimana menikah muda adalah biasa


hadeh....Tukang Copas FFI maen copas lagih..
keliling2 dulu Mit...nih basi ah...

kreatif makanya...biar gk basi modal copas FFI
dah saya ulas tuh....tentang pernikahan muda jaman dahulu..

https://murtadinkafirun.forumotion.com/t10456-musicmanbuku-kristen-sendiri-membela-tuduhan-phedofil-kepada-nabi-muhammad

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Buku Palungan menyingkap kisah kelahiran oleh Joseph F. Kelly hal.105

menjelaskan (pembelaan?) untuk pernikahan-pernikahan di usia muda bagi wanita-wanita sebelum abad 19....

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memang agama apa yang punya konsep masa iddah yachhh??????????????????????????


sekarang saya tanya tentang masa iddah wanita monopaose dalam islam,berapa lama????


berapa lama masa iddah wanita hamil dalam islam??????


samakah dengan aturan ayat di atas??????


kalo ternyata gak sama, barulah kau bisa berkata,bahwa ayat tersebut ditujukkan untuk " jaman dulu"
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lho....duh,gemana seh Sad
anda tulis sendiri..tuh baca lagi yang atas...pertanyaan anda malah sampeyan jawab terlebih dulu.
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Post by kermit katak lucu Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:19 am

copas dari blog muslim:



phedofilia dalam quran Kh-m-shiddiq-al-jawi



Hukumnya boleh (mubah) secara syar'i dan sah seorang laki-laki dewasa menikahi anak perempuan yang masih kecil (belum haid). Dalil kebolehannya adalah Al-Qur`an dan As-Sunnah. Dalil Al-Qur`an adalah firman Allah SWT (artinya) :

"Dan perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid lagi (menopause) di antara perempuan-perempuanmu jika kamu ragu-ragu (tentang masa iddahnya) maka iddah mereka adalah tiga bulan; dan begitu (pula) perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid." (QS Ath-Thalaq [65] : 4).

Ibnu Katsir dalam kitab tafsirnya menyatakan bahwa yang dimaksud "perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid" (lam yahidhna), adalah anak-anak perempuan kecil yang belum mencapai usia haid (ash-shighaar al-la`iy lam yablughna sinna al-haidh). Ini sesuai dengan sababun nuzul ayat tersebut, ketika sebagian shahahat bertanya kepada Nabi SAW mengenai masa iddah untuk 3 (tiga) kelompok perempuan, yaitu : perempuan yang sudah menopause (kibaar), perempuan yang masih kecil (shighar), dan perempuan yang hamil (uulatul ahmaal). Jadi, ayat di atas secara manthuq (makna eksplisit) menunjukkan masa iddah bagi anak perempuan kecil yang belum haid dalam cerai hidup, yaitu selama tiga bulan.

Imam Suyuthi dalam kitabnya Al-Iklil fi Istinbath At-Tanzil hal. 212 mengutip Ibnul Arabi, yang mengatakan,"Diambil pengertian dari ayat itu, bahwa seorang [wali] boleh menikahkan anak-anak perempuannya yang masih kecil, sebab iddah adalah cabang daripada nikah."

Jadi, secara tidak langsung, ayat di atas menunjukkan bolehnya menikahi anak perempuan yang masih kecil yang belum haid. Penunjukan makna (dalalah) yang demikian ini dalam ushul fiqih disebut dengan istilah dalalah iqtidha`, yaitu pengambilan makna yang mau tak mau harus ada atau merupakan keharusan (iqtidha`) dari makna manthuq (eksplisit), agar makna manthuq tadi bernilai benar, baik benar secara syar'i (dalam tinjauan hukum) maupun secara akli (dalam tinjauan akal). Jadi, ketika Allah SWT mengatur masa iddah untuk anak perempuan yang belum haid, berarti secara tidak langsung Allah SWT telah membolehkan menikahi anak perempuan yang belum haid itu, meski kebolehan ini memang tidak disebut secara manthuq (eksplisit) dalam ayat di atas.

Adapun dalil As-Sunnah, adalah hadits dari 'Aisyah RA, dia berkata :

"Bahwa Nabi SAW telah menikahi 'A`isyah RA sedang 'A`isyah berumur 6 tahun, dan berumah tangga dengannya pada saat 'Aisyah berumur 9 tahun, dan 'Aisyah tinggal bersama Nabi SAW selama 9 tahun." (HR Bukhari, hadits no 4738, Maktabah Syamilah). Dalam riwayat lain disebutkan : Nabi SAW menikahi 'A`isyah RA ketika 'Aisyah berumur 7 tahun [bukan 6 tahun] dan Nabi SAW berumah tangga dengan 'Aisyah ketika 'Aisyah umurnya 9 tahun. (HR Muslim, hadits no 2549, Maktabah Syamilah).

Imam Syaukani dalam kitabnya Nailul Authar (9/480) menyimpulkan dari hadits di atas, bahwa boleh hukumnya seorang ayah menikahkan anak perempuannya yang belum baligh (yajuuzu lil abb an yuzawwija ibnatahu qabla al-buluugh).

Berdasarkan dalil-dalil di atas, jelaslah bahwa mubah hukumnya seorang laki-laki menikah dengan anak perempuan kecil yang belum haid. Hukum nikahnya sah dan tidak haram. Namun syara' hanya menjadikan hukumnya sebatas mubah (boleh), tidak menjadikannya sebagai sesuatu anjuran atau keutamaan (sunnah/mandub), apalagi sesuatu keharusan (wajib). Wallahu a'lam.[rofx/klfh]


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Post by kermit katak lucu Tue 23 Aug 2011, 1:01 am

copas lagi ahh...biar slimers tambah stress:


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Notorious pro-Taliban Islamist clergy in Bangladesh, Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini has threatened to wage jihad in the country if the government will pass any law banning child marriage.

He said, two hundred thousand Jihadists of his group are ready to 'sacrifice' lives if any such law, which goes against "Koran and Sunnah" will be passed by the current government in the country.

Mufti Amini said, "Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, who also married minor Ayesha, when she was just eight years old".

He said, "The new law initiated by the current government will put the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge."

Fazlul Haque Amini further said, "Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women."

It may be mentioned here that, current government in Bangladesh has taken several measures in ensuring better rights to the women thus treating child marriage as severe offense. It also recommends equal distribution of properties amongst male and female inherits. In contrary, Islamic Sharia law gives lesser rights to women as far as inheritance is concerned. It also allows men to marry any infant girl child. It may be mentioned here that, such law is prevalent in most of the Islamic republics, while in Iran, even forceful sexual relations with the married infant is allowed. A large segment of Muslim scholars and secularist individuals term this as mere perversion.

In Bangladesh, especially in the rural areas, child marriage is very regular phenomenon, where hundreds of child mothers die due to lack of medical facilities as well as for pre-mature pregnancy. There are even cases of deaths of child wives being virtually raped by their husbands. Child marriage is prevalent in rural Bangladesh both amongst the Muslim and non-Muslim families.

Several weeks back, Islamist clergy Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini and Moulana Rezaul Karim launched a movement of 'combating anti-Islam actions' by the government in Bangladesh. Since then, hundreds and thousands of followers of these fanatic leaders are active in various forms of demonstrations around the country. It is also reported in media that, minor boys in the Koranic Madrassas were forced join most of the anti-government demonstrations of these leaders. According to unofficial statistics, there are roughly 9 million students attending various madrassas in Bangladesh.

Mutfti Fazlul Haque Amini is branded as a 'political tout' in Bangladesh, who is virtually making millions by selling Jihadist notion amongst the people. He is under payroll of various Islamist groups including Pakistani intelligence agency ISI. Amini maintains closer ties with Al-Qaeda, Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, Lashkar-e-Toiba and militant outfits inside Kashmir. He also is actively involved in recruiting local youths for participating in 'Jihad' in Kashmir, Palestine and other places in the world.

Both Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini and Moulana Rezaul Karim are known for their extreme opinion against United States, Israel and the West. They also patronize various activities against these nations, as well as provide support and logistics to anti-Semitic forces in Bangladesh.


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Post by mencari petunjuk Tue 23 Aug 2011, 1:35 am

Kid. 8:8 --Kami mempunyai seorang adik perempuan, yang belum mempunyai buah dada. Apakah yang akan kami perbuat dengan adik perempuan kami pada hari ia dipinang?

pantesan bunda maria yg belum punya buah dada menikah dgn yusuf ya????

kalau yg itu stress gak kristen??????

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Post by abu hanan Tue 23 Aug 2011, 11:55 am

abu hanan wrote:
lihd : wrote:Lanjutan seri ke-9:
https://murtadinkafirun.forumotion.com/t11510-fakta-tentang-kekejian-tuhan-kristen-beserta-ajarannya-part-9-punya-tradisi-untuk-memperbudak-bangsa-lain#84563

7 Apabila ada seorang menjual anaknya yang perempuan sebagai budak, maka perempuan itu tidak boleh keluar seperti cara budak-budak lelaki keluar.

9 Jika tuannya itu menyediakannya bagi anaknya laki-laki, maka haruslah tuannya itu memperlakukannya seperti anak-anak perempuan berhak diperlakukan.

10 Jika tuannya itu mengambil perempuan lain, ia tidak boleh mengurangi makanan perempuan itu, pakaiannya dan persetubuhan dengan dia.

(Keluaran 21:7,9,10)
Anda mau meyanggah?? Silahkan.... Smile
bisakah anda terangkan pada kami,pada usia berapa anak perempuan boleh dijual dan dicampuri?
Atauh andah akan bilang Taurat TELAH DIGENAPIH?
Atauh andah akan meneruskan hobih,buka lapak dan kabur?
silahkan.......
Gak adah istilah stres dalam kamus kamih kaloh cuman ngebahas masalah kayak geneh.
btw,terima kasih mas...telah membantuh sayah utk inspirasi guna menulis ttg ayat tsb di blog sayah...jadi saya gak sanggah disinih.......
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Post by musicman Tue 23 Aug 2011, 2:01 pm

kermit katak lucu wrote:
musicman wrote:
kermit katak lucu wrote:apakah quran mengizinkan menikah dengan wanita yang belum menstruasi??? jawabannya adalah YES!! .buktinya quran mengatur masa iddah( masa menunggu seorang istri yang dicerai suaminya untuk dapat menikah lagi)., bagi perempuan yang belum menstruasi berdasarkan tafsir klasik on line yang saya temukan:

mantap sekale nehh tafsir klasik,isinya pasti bikin malu muslim( itu juga kalo muslim masih punya rasa malu):


langsung aja ke ayat yang dimaksud:


Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
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Dan perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid lagi (monopause) di antara perempuan-perempuanmu jika kamu ragu-ragu (tentang masa iddahnya), maka masa iddah mereka adalah tiga bulan; dan begitu (pula) perempuan-perempuan yang tidak haid. Dan perempuan-perempuan yang hamil, waktu iddah mereka itu ialah sampai mereka melahirkan kandungannya. Dan barang -siapa yang bertakwa kepada Allah, niscaya Allah menjadikan baginya kemudahan dalam urusannya.



http://quran.com/65/4

Tafsir al-Jalalayn,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.

Tafsir al-Jalalayn, trans. Feras Hamza
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http://www.altafsir.com/Al-Jalalayn.asp


Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas,

{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.

Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas, trans. Mokrane Guezzou
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* تفسير Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
{ وَٱللاَّئِي يَئِسْنَ مِنَ ٱلْمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ إِنِ ٱرْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلاَثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ وَأُوْلاَتُ ٱلأَحْمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجْعَل لَّهُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ يُسْراً }

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.


http://www.altafsir.com/WahidiAsbabAlnuzul.asp


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yah ngga gitu....

coba baca dr awal surat at thaalaq 1 donk..

itu aturan untuk bercerai (thalaq)

ayat itu ditujukan aturan untuk mengatur thalaq pada jaman dahulu dimana menikah muda adalah biasa


hadeh....Tukang Copas FFI maen copas lagih..
keliling2 dulu Mit...nih basi ah...

kreatif makanya...biar gk basi modal copas FFI
dah saya ulas tuh....tentang pernikahan muda jaman dahulu..

https://murtadinkafirun.forumotion.com/t10456-musicmanbuku-kristen-sendiri-membela-tuduhan-phedofil-kepada-nabi-muhammad

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Buku Palungan menyingkap kisah kelahiran oleh Joseph F. Kelly hal.105

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jawaban yang sungguh lucuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


memang agama apa yang punya konsep masa iddah yachhh??????????????????????????


sekarang saya tanya tentang masa iddah wanita monopaose dalam islam,berapa lama????


berapa lama masa iddah wanita hamil dalam islam??????


samakah dengan aturan ayat di atas??????


kalo ternyata gak sama, barulah kau bisa berkata,bahwa ayat tersebut ditujukkan untuk " jaman dulu"
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yah stress....drmana..
paling sambil cengar-cengir... Laughing Laughing Laughing
yg kleyengan itu yg cari bahan kesana kemari...krn gk keratif..


LUCU?yg Lucu itu gk bisa cerna sumber saya... Smile

kan anda lagi membahas masalah pedofilia dalam al quran bukan?


baca lagi ah..SUmber saya tuh..

....belajar cerna kalimat yg bener mit...

sumber yg anda bw bukan membolehkan pedhofile..tp tuh...Ayat tsb membahas tentang aturan cerai salah satunya cerai wanita yg blm haid...
jmn dahulu..wanita blm dewasa menikah bukan hal aneh...krn tingkat kematian bayi tinggi..sehingga wanita muda memungkinkan melahirkan kembali dan banyak beranak

jgn jd stress ke masa iddah segala...
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Post by iman indah Sat 27 Aug 2011, 4:23 am

mencari petunjuk wrote:Kid. 8:8 --Kami mempunyai seorang adik perempuan, yang belum mempunyai buah dada. Apakah yang akan kami perbuat dengan adik perempuan kami pada hari ia dipinang?

pantesan bunda maria yg belum punya buah dada menikah dgn yusuf ya????

kalau yg itu stress gak kristen??????

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